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其实是来发几个队伍,有兴趣的可以讨论一下。


1楼2015-11-27 20:35回复
    Sableye-Mega @ Sablenite
    Ability: Magic Bounce
    EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 SpD
    Impish Nature
    - Fake Out
    - Foul Play
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Rock Tomb
    Yveltal @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Dark Aura
    Happiness: 0
    EVs: 56 HP / 4 Def / 248 SpA / 4 SpD / 196 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Dark Pulse
    - Oblivion Wing
    - U-turn
    - Focus Blast
    Ho-Oh @ Life Orb
    Ability: Regenerator
    EVs: 168 HP / 232 Atk / 8 Def / 100 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Brave Bird
    - Sacred Fire
    - Earthquake
    - Substitute
    Latios @ Soul Dew
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 40 HP / 92 Def / 192 SpA / 184 Spe
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Psyshock
    - Draco Meteor
    - Grass Knot
    - Defog
    Arceus-Rock @ Stone Plate
    Ability: Multitype
    EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 Spe
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Judgment
    - Will-O-Wisp - Stealth Rock
    - Recover
    Ditto @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Imposter
    Happiness: 0
    EVs: 252 HP
    - Transform


    6楼2015-11-27 20:54
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      忍者蛙 (Greninja) (F) @ Focus Sash
      Ability: Protean
      EVs: 16 HP / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
      Timid Nature
      IVs: 0 Atk
      - Taunt
      - Toxic Spikes
      - Dark Pulse
      - Grass Knot
      固拉多 (Groudon) @ Red Orb
      Ability: Drought
      EVs: 232 HP / 16 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
      Brave Nature
      - Stealth Rock
      - Earthquake
      - Dragon Tail
      - Fire Blast
      Gengar-Mega @ Gengarite
      Ability: Shadow Tag
      Happiness: 0
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
      Timid Nature
      IVs: 0 Atk
      - Protect
      - Focus Blast
      - Destiny Bond
      - Sludge Wave
      Yveltal @ Choice Specs
      Ability: Dark Aura
      EVs: 24 HP / 4 Def / 248 SpA / 4 SpD / 228 Spe
      Timid Nature
      - Oblivion Wing
      - Dark Pulse
      - U-turn
      - Sleep Talk
      Palkia @ Lustrous Orb
      Ability: Pressure
      EVs: 40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
      Timid Nature
      - Surf
      - Spacial Rend
      - Substitute
      - Focus Punch
      Darkrai @ Choice Scarf
      Ability: Bad Dreams
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
      Timid Nature
      IVs: 0 Atk
      - Trick
      - Dark Void
      - Dark Pulse
      - Ice Beam


      7楼2015-11-27 21:06
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        这个队是想尝试水龙而组的。和光布说的一样,水龙打击面极好,速度在中速区堪称一霸,然后还有着一票龙系神兽中最稳定的高威力本系。但相对的,身板太脆,对模式队几乎无联防价值,力度破受堪忧,也是很明显的缺点。所以最后选择了耿鬼加上这个贴吧最火的毒钉来做轴2333当然还要配个特耐岩钉古拉,然后加了眼镜y来和水龙联攻联防对面的古拉,顺便anti毒钉队讨厌的噩梦(虽然实际上并没有经常这样来操作)。5个成员放完发现容易被血翼推队,但又不想塞一个物耐X,太冷无缺还造成整队速度太慢。于是最后加了个围巾噩梦,顺便阴死首发外星人钉,救救残血古拉场也行,打130速度线以上的高速打手们也是属性优势飞起。唯一的问题就是很靠操作,而且后期救场时很可能被毒钉弄得黑洞报废。
        水龙配置那么奇怪主要是因为恨死了追击班+蛋的受逼组合,在沙暴的影响下耿鬼很可能蛋没抓到,最后连班同旅都带不走,保护为了稳定收720又不能扔,只能舍弃挑拨。结果连锁反应就是不能稳定抓蛋了,于是……我就给水龙顺便带了个气合拳。
        实际测试中发现大地之力和大火用处都不是那么大,白玉双本的力度配上毒钉完全足以。替身方便先读,还能克死水创。减物攻的气合拳照样2hko神蛋,虽然不能直接正面硬拆但也足够了(然而我并没有这样拆过一个蛋)。


        9楼2015-11-27 21:14
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          Groudon-Primal @ Red Orb
          Ability: Desolate Land
          EVs: 232 HP / 16 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
          Brave Nature
          - Stealth Rock
          - Precipice Blades
          - Dragon Tail
          - Lava Plume
          Salamence-Mega @ Salamencite
          Ability: Intimidate
          Happiness: 0
          EVs: 32 HP / 248 Atk / 4 Def / 224 Spe
          Adamant Nature
          - Dragon Dance
          - Substitute
          - Double-Edge
          - Earthquake
          Arceus @ Silk Scarf
          Ability: Multitype
          EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
          Jolly Nature
          - Extreme Speed
          - Swords Dance
          - Will-O-Wisp
          - Earthquake
          Mewtwo @ Life Orb
          Ability: Pressure
          EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
          Timid Nature
          IVs: 0 Atk
          - Psystrike
          - Ice Beam
          - Aura Sphere
          - Fire Blast
          Yveltal @ Choice Specs
          Ability: Dark Aura
          EVs: 24 HP / 4 Def / 248 SpA / 4 SpD / 228 Spe
          Timid Nature
          - Dark Pulse
          - Oblivion Wing
          - U-turn
          - Sleep Talk
          Klefki @ Leftovers
          Ability: Prankster
          EVs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SpD
          Careful Nature
          - Play Rough
          - Thunder Wave
          - Spikes
          - Reflect


          10楼2015-11-27 21:27
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            对了,还有两篇战报。都是对攻局,其实并不能最好地体现出队伍的(拆受)特色,对面也或多或少有失误,不过都是清分前狙的高分于是就顺手存了2333
            毒钉水龙队:http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ubers-296121354
            钥匙攻:http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ubers-296829491


            12楼2015-11-27 22:42
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              第二,别瞎口胡钥匙对着岩720上,岩720基本都是带鬼火不带剧毒的主,钥匙惹不起,何况这钥匙还没毒……第三,减物攻气合拳珍珠……就是一垃圾,我在xy就已经盖棺定论了。再说这么做不和逻辑,你是为了珍珠组了个队,结果感觉就是组了个塞了个珍珠的队,最后觉得队伍有盲点,非要委屈珍珠。其实现环境眼镜珍珠或者白玉都是有被低估的嫌疑的,作为一个特攻手怕蛋不是什么问题,这东西实在太拖节奏,而太有可能出问题了,况且这个威力的气合拳……打蛋………一个字,不靠谱……


              IP属地:上海来自Android客户端14楼2015-11-28 01:11
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                这个吧热衷于毒钉队,我也再来发几个相比这个毒钉水龙正常一点的队。
                两个队都是从这个吧里借鉴来的毒钉袋龙古拉轴。
                第一个带了围巾黑龙。不得不说黑龙真心适合毒钉队,能给予几乎所有飞浮pm重创,梦话也能anti讨厌的噩梦,还能在没有撒出岩钉时提供宝贵的飞抗:
                忍者蛙 (Greninja) (F) @ Focus Sash
                Ability: Protean
                EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
                Naive Nature
                - Taunt
                - Toxic Spikes
                - Dark Pulse
                - Shadow Sneak
                固拉多 (Groudon) @ Red Orb
                Ability: Drought
                EVs: 232 HP / 16 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
                Brave Nature
                - Stealth Rock
                - Earthquake
                - Dragon Tail
                - Lava Plume
                袋龙 (Kangaskhan) @ Kangaskhanite
                Ability: Inner Focus
                Happiness: 0
                EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
                Jolly Nature
                - Fake Out
                - Ice Punch
                - Earthquake
                - Frustration
                捷克罗姆 (Zekrom) @ Choice Scarf
                Ability: Teravolt
                EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
                Adamant Nature
                - Bolt Strike
                - Outrage
                - Sleep Talk
                - Focus Blast
                骑拉帝纳-原始 (Giratina-Origin) @ Griseous Orb
                Ability: Levitate
                EVs: 88 HP / 136 Atk / 184 Def / 100 Spe
                Adamant Nature
                - Will-O-Wisp
                - Shadow Force
                - Dragon Tail
                - Substitute
                希尼亚斯 (Xerneas) @ Power Herb
                Ability: Fairy Aura
                EVs: 56 HP / 152 Def / 252 SpA / 48 Spe
                Modest Nature
                IVs: 0 Atk
                - Geomancy
                - Moonblast
                - Aromatherapy
                - Thunder


                15楼2015-11-28 16:58
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                  这个队尝试的是毒钉队另一个小伙伴眼镜y。相比之下没有黑龙对于飞浮恐怖的克制,也没有飞抗。但同样的,也不需要对古拉进行额外的anti。这个队似乎吧里有人发过但我找不到了,既然有人要我就再发一遍。相比前一个队节奏要快挺多。
                  忍者蛙 (Greninja) (F) @ Focus Sash
                  Ability: Protean
                  EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
                  Naive Nature
                  - Taunt
                  - Toxic Spikes
                  - Dark Pulse
                  - Shadow Sneak
                  固拉多 (Groudon) @ Red Orb
                  Ability: Drought
                  EVs: 232 HP / 16 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
                  Brave Nature
                  - Stealth Rock
                  - Earthquake
                  - Dragon Tail
                  - Fire Blast
                  袋龙 (Kangaskhan) @ Kangaskhanite
                  Ability: Inner Focus
                  Happiness: 0
                  EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
                  Jolly Nature
                  - Fake Out
                  - Ice Punch
                  - Earthquake
                  - Frustration
                  Yveltal @ Choice Specs
                  Ability: Dark Aura
                  EVs: 56 HP / 4 Def / 248 SpA / 4 SpD / 196 Spe
                  Timid Nature
                  - Dark Pulse
                  - Oblivion Wing
                  - U-turn
                  - Sleep Talk
                  Arceus-Ghost @ Spooky Plate
                  Ability: Multitype
                  EVs: 136 HP / 24 Def / 248 SpA / 100 Spe
                  Timid Nature
                  IVs: 0 Atk
                  - Judgment
                  - Focus Blast
                  - Substitute
                  - Calm Mind
                  希尼亚斯 (Xerneas) @ Power Herb
                  Ability: Fairy Aura
                  EVs: 56 HP / 152 Def / 252 SpA / 48 Spe
                  Modest Nature
                  IVs: 0 Atk
                  - Geomancy
                  - Moonblast
                  - Aromatherapy
                  - Thunder


                  16楼2015-11-28 17:02
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                    sb大叔


                    IP属地:广东来自Android客户端18楼2015-11-28 18:03
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                      报警!又是耿鬼


                      IP属地:广东来自Android客户端19楼2015-11-29 01:57
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                        那个钥匙圈队感觉最怕的是龙尾和岩石封古拉,有什么应对方法吗?


                        IP属地:广东来自Android客户端20楼2015-12-07 22:17
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