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洛氏作品中的“人类已知宇宙”

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IP属地:重庆来自iPhone客户端1楼2023-08-22 22:27回复
    但是,这颗人口稠密的行星只不过是那个恐怖的星际种族所占据的一个前哨罢了,它们真正的、最初的起源肯定在更加遥远的地方,甚至远在【爱因斯坦所宣称的时空连续统一体】之外,或是远在【人类所知晓的最广博的宇宙边界】之外。
    ——《暗夜呢喃》
    原文:but this was itself merely the populous outpost of a frightful interstellar race whose ultimate source must lie far outside even 【the Einsteinian space-time continuum or greatest known cosmos】.


    IP属地:重庆2楼2023-08-22 22:35
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      【我们以为等价于宇宙的时空球体】在他们所认知的无垠永恒中只是一颗原子。
      ——《暗夜呢喃》(此段译文据姚向辉译《克苏鲁神话Ⅰ》)
      原文:【The space-time globule which we recognise as the totality of all cosmic entity】 is only an atom in the genuine infinity which is theirs.


      IP属地:重庆3楼2023-08-22 22:39
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        在书信中,洛氏明确提及爱因斯坦的时空连续体是有限的:
        I think Eddington has ventured the guess that (granting the finite Einsteinian space-time continuum) the cosmos may possess about six worlds with highly-developed life at any one time. In our solar system,no planet but the earth is likely to possess complexly-evolved organ-isms at the present moment. But of course, counting the "dimension"of time, the number of inhabited worlds in the cosmos becomes infinite.
        ——《SELECTED LETTERS Ⅴ》.Arkham House, 1976.p154


        IP属地:重庆来自iPhone客户端4楼2023-08-22 22:41
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          即使代入现实理论,已知宇宙仍然为有限规模:


          IP属地:重庆来自iPhone客户端5楼2023-08-22 22:49
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            已知宇宙空间弯曲且存在边缘:
            不仅仅是去犹格斯,而且还会在那之外——远离银河系之外,甚至可能是超越宇宙最后一道弧形边缘之外的地方。
            ——《暗夜呢喃》
            原文 :not only to Yuggoth, but beyond that—away outside the galaxy and possibly beyond 【the last curved rim of space】.


            IP属地:重庆7楼2023-08-22 23:00
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              和作品中的“无限”相区分:
              在我们看来,时空统一体即是整个宇宙的,但在那个属于它们的、【真正的无垠】里,【时空统一体只是一颗渺小的原子】。
              ——《暗夜呢喃》
              原文:The space-time globule which we recognise as the totality of all cosmic entity 【is only an atom in the genuine infinity which is theirs】.


              IP属地:重庆来自iPhone客户端9楼2023-08-22 23:10
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                在书信中,已知宇宙也是和无限大的宇宙整体相区别:
                As for cosmic matters—I think a little reflection will shew you that the absence of any beginning or ending is not only not difficult to grasp,but that the opposite conception is absolutely impossible either to graspor seriously believe. If all entity had a beginning & will have an ending,then what began it, & what began the beginner at one end, & what will non-entity be after its conclusions? These assumptions of finiteness are all puerile & arbitrary, & based on the mythology of the past. In theabsence of any information beyond relatively narrow limits, the only reasonable adult assumption is that the space-time continuum represents a fixed & basic condition. It is all there is, has been, or will be anywhere. It is the primal essence of reality. It is fundamental entity, infinite &eternal, whose patterned rearrangements are an integral part of its properties, & of which 【the visible universe & human life are a negligible quasi-atom】 casually spawned for an instant & soon to be as though they had never been . But probably life as a basic principle is not peculiar to this part of space—though we might not recognise many of its otherforms as being life at all.——《SELECTED LETTERS Ⅴ》.Arkham House, 1976.p22-23


                IP属地:重庆来自iPhone客户端10楼2023-08-22 23:12
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                  @破灭 @彩祸 @阿坐名初未 @鲨鱼必须被殴打
                  请问几位觉得有什么问题或疏漏么?


                  IP属地:重庆来自iPhone客户端11楼2023-09-03 21:19
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