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【水】FotE原计划的北欧、凯尔特、斯拉夫兵种

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一直有传言说FotE是阿提拉版DEI,甚至说FotE是DEI组做的。但实际上这俩mod只有组长是同一人(Dresden),FotE组的其余成员并非来自DEI组,而是CRoC组(罗2的Constantine: Rise of Christianity,背景是最后一代四帝共治时期)
组长Dresden的原话:“- This mod is NOT DeI for Attila in any way. The scale of the project will be nothing like DeI or really even Constantine (since the campaign scenario will remain roughly like vanilla). The focus of this mod is to improve battles and unit models/textures.”
在2015年CA发布阿提拉之后,CRoC制作组决定放弃罗2,转在阿提拉平台做晚期罗马mod,于是FotE诞生了
“- We plan on using assets developed for Constantine for the various Attila units. Either in improving the existing vanilla units or in creating new units, the plan is to bring the historical authenticity found in our current models and textures into the new game.”
现在来看可惜了,因为CRoC的完成度不算低,如果当时坚持做下去,还是有希望完成的
“- The goal of the battle system will be to improve on the existing vanilla formula by adding realism to the morale, fatigue and projectile systems while increasing battle time if necessary.”
最初FotE的定位只是兵种和战斗系统方面的修改,以便兼容其它战役mod,因此制作规模是比不上CRoC和DEI的。既然一个兵种mod,那FotE大部分工作自然是由Ahiga(steam ID:Meloncat)承担,毕竟前作CRoC的兵种和战斗也是他负责
可惜Ahiga兴趣转移到《武装突袭3》了,无论是CRoC、FotE,还是他为DEI制作的破碎帝国兵种(详见:https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5881382851),都没一个能坚持到最后。
全战论坛(twcenter)至今还保留着2016年Ahiga最后一次更新的FotE(v5.2版本),工坊的后续更新则是2019年Aurelianus接手以来负责的。如今的FotE,也早已不止步于单纯的兵种mod。在战斗系统方面,Aurelianus延续了Ahiga的设计,但兵种方面则不然。当初Ahiga曾经上传过FotE的兵种设计表,当中包含v5.2版本尚未修改的部分,然而FotE的继业者Aurelianus并没有按照原计划更新
下面我们不妨看看,如果当初Ahiga没有弃坑,FotE的北欧、凯尔特、斯拉夫兵种是什么样的


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    IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端2楼2023-10-09 18:26
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      【北欧】
      设计思路
      1. 盎格鲁/撒克逊:拥有部分骑兵,优势兵种是矛兵和标枪手
      2. 丹人/朱特:沿用原版(穿越)的维京船海军,缺近战骑兵,优势兵种是双手斧、狂战士
      3. 耶阿特:优势兵种是骑兵,步战能力一般
      兵种列表(兵种名使用古诺尔斯语)
      1. 盎格鲁/撒克逊:
      T1将卫 - Gedryht,原版att_nor_nordic_warlord改
      T2将卫 - Cynelicra Gesithas,仅限盎格鲁/撒克逊派系,原版att_nor_chieftain_with_gedriht改
      T1投石 - Stanweorpereas,带盾,原版att_nor_nordic_hurlers改
      T1弓箭 - Scytereas,配长弓,原版att_nor_nordic_bows改
      T0标枪 - Thrall Francanberend,仅限驻军,配短刀、木棍,原版att_nor_thrall_skirmishers改
      T1标枪 - Gebur Francanberend,农夫,原版att_nor_nordic_skirmishers改
      T2标枪 - Geoguth Francanberend,自由民,原版att_nor_geoguth_javelinmen改
      T3标枪 - Hearthweru Francanberend,历战,原版att_nor_elite_saxon_javelinmen改
      T0矛盾 - Thrall Spereuberendr,仅限驻军,原版att_nor_thrall_spears改
      T1矛盾 - Gebur Spereuberendr,农夫,不配标枪?原版att_nor_saxon_spears改
      T2矛盾 - Geoguth Spereuberendr,华丽,原版att_nor_elite_nordic_spearmen改
      T3矛盾 - Duguth Spereuberendr,历战带甲,原版att_nor_elite_duguth_spearmen改
      T4矛盾 - Hearthweru Spereuberendr,炉卫,原版att_nor_nordic_spear_masters改
      T1剑盾 - Karles Seaxberendr,农夫,原版att_nor_nordic_band改
      T2剑盾 - Geoguth Seaxberendr,华丽,原版att_nor_nordic_brigade改
      T3剑盾 - Hearthweru Sweordboran,带甲,原版att_nor_hearth_guard改
      T4剑盾 - Gesithas Sweordboran,亲随,配倒刺长标枪(Angon),原版att_nor_gesithas改
      T1斧盾 - Karles Øxberendr,原版att_nor_nordic_axe_warband改
      T2斧盾 - Hird Øxberendr,历战(部分带甲),新建兵种fote_norse_axemen_T2_saxon
      T1轻骑 - Francanberath Raedehereas,原版att_nor_nordic_raiders改
      T1/T2近骑 - Geoguth Raedehereas,套用华丽矛盾的兵模,原版att_nor_saxon_mounted_warband改
      T2/T3近骑 - Duguth Raedehereas,套用骑士动作,原版att_nor_saxon_lancers改
      投石,攻城器械,原版att_nor_onager改
      重投,攻城器械,原版att_nor_onager_large改
      2. 丹人/朱特:
      T1将卫 - Gedryht,原版att_nor_nordic_warlord改
      T1投石 - Stanweorpereas,带盾,原版att_nor_nordic_hurlers改
      T1弓箭 - Scytereas,配长弓,原版att_nor_nordic_bows改
      T2弓箭 - Karles Skyti,配长弓,新建兵种FOTE_norse_archer_t2_longbowmen
      T0矛盾 - Thrall Spereuberendr,仅限驻军,原版att_nor_thrall_spears改
      T1矛盾 - Boendr Spereuberendr,农夫,原版att_nor_thrall_spearmen改
      T2矛盾 - Karles Spereuberendr,富农,原版att_nor_nordic_levy改
      T3矛盾 - Vikinga Spereuberendr,带甲,原版att_nor_nordic_spearmen改
      T1剑盾 - Karles Seaxberendr,农夫,使用短刀,原版att_nor_nordic_band改
      T3剑盾 - Karles Sverðberendr,自由民,使用短刀、木棍,原版att_nor_nordic_warriors改
      T4剑盾 - Víkinga Hird Sverðberendr,族人(Hirdmen),原版att_nor_hirdmen改
      T5剑盾 - Jarla Hird Sverðberendr,首领(Jarl)亲随,原版att_nor_elite_nordic_warriors改
      T6剑盾 - Konunga Hird Sverðberendr,王室亲随,原版att_nor_chosen_warriors改
      T1标枪 - Thrall Francanberend,仅限驻军,配斧,原版att_nor_thrall_skirmishers改
      T2标枪 - Gebur Francanberend,农夫,原版att_nor_nordic_skirmishers改
      T3标枪 - Karles Francanberend,富农,原版att_nor_nordic_javelinmen改
      T1斧盾 - Karles Øxberendr,原版att_nor_nordic_axe_warband改
      T3斧盾 - Vikinga Hird Øxberendr,全员带甲,原版att_nor_viking_raiders改
      T?狂战 - Berserkir,熊皮,原版att_nor_norse_berserkers改
      T?狂战 - Úlfhéðnar,狼皮,原版att_nor_wolf_coats改
      T1重斧 - Karles Breiðöx-berendr,双手斧,自由民,原版att_nor_nordic_axe_warriors改
      T2重斧 - Vikinga Breiðöx-berendr,双手斧,原版att_nor_huscarls改
      T3重斧 - Jarla Húskarles Breiðöx-berendr,双手斧,原版att_nor_royal_huscarls改
      T1轻骑 - Francanberath Raedehereas,原版att_nor_nordic_raiders改
      T1近骑 - Karles Riddarar,配斧、倒刺长标枪,原版att_nor_nordic_horse_raiders改
      T?战獒 - Hundar,配华丽矛盾或剑盾,原版att_nor_warhounds改
      投石,攻城器械,原版att_nor_onager改
      重投,攻城器械,原版att_nor_onager_large改
      3. 耶阿特:
      T1将卫 - Gedryht,原版att_nor_nordic_warlord改
      T?将卫 - Geatas Hird Riddarar,骑兵卫队,新建兵种fote_norse_bodyguard_geatish_cavalry
      T1投石 - Stanweorpereas,带盾,原版att_nor_nordic_hurlers改
      T1弓箭 - Scytereas,配简易弓,原版att_nor_nordic_bows改
      T2弓箭 - Karles Skyti,配长弓,新建兵种FOTE_norse_archer_t2_longbowmen
      T?标枪 - Fenni Francanberend,潜行,原版att_nor_nordic_brigands改
      T1标枪 - Thrall Francanberend,仅限驻军,配斧,原版att_nor_thrall_skirmishers改
      T2标枪 - Gebur Francanberend,农夫,原版att_nor_nordic_skirmishers改
      T3标枪 - Karles Francanberend,富农,原版att_nor_nordic_javelinmen改
      T0矛盾 - Thrall Spereuberendr,仅限驻军,使用短刀、木棍,原版att_nor_thrall_spears改
      T1矛盾 - Boendr Spereuberendr,农夫,原版att_nor_thrall_spearmen改
      T2矛盾 - Karles Spereuberendr,富农,原版att_nor_nordic_levy改
      T3矛盾 - Vikinga Spereuberendr,带甲,原版att_nor_nordic_spearmen改
      T1剑盾 - Karles Seaxberendr,农夫,使用短刀,原版att_nor_nordic_band改
      T3剑盾 - Karles Sverðberendr,自由民,使用短刀、木棍,原版att_nor_nordic_warriors改
      T4剑盾 - Víkinga Hird Sverðberendr,族人,原版att_nor_hirdmen改
      T5剑盾 - Jarla Hird Sverðberendr,首领亲随,原版att_nor_elite_nordic_warriors改
      T1斧盾 - Karles Øxberendr,原版att_nor_nordic_axe_warband改
      T2斧盾 - Hird Øxberendr,历战(部分带甲),新建兵种fote_norse_axemen_T2_saxon
      T1重斧 - Karles Breiðöx-berendr,双手斧,自由民,原版att_nor_nordic_axe_warriors改
      T?狂战 - Úlfhéðnar,狼皮,原版att_nor_wolf_coats改
      T1轻骑 - Francanberath Raedehereas,原版att_nor_nordic_raiders改
      T1近骑 - Karles Riddarar,配斧、倒刺长标枪,原版att_nor_nordic_horse_raiders改
      T2近骑 - Geatas Riddarar,套用骑士动作,原版att_nor_viking_raider_cavalry改
      T3近骑 - Jarla Hird Riddarar,套用骑士动作,原版att_nor_nordic_horse_lords改
      T4近骑 - Konunga Hird Riddarar,套用骑士动作,原版att_nor_heroic_cavalry改
      T?战獒 - Hundar,配华丽矛盾或剑盾,原版att_nor_warhounds改
      投石,攻城器械,原版att_nor_onager改
      重投,攻城器械,原版att_nor_onager_large改


      IP属地:广东3楼2023-10-09 20:00
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        还是中世纪铁罐头们英雄,故事比较精彩,原版时代真是没法代入


        IP属地:广东来自Android客户端4楼2023-10-09 20:50
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          【斯拉夫】
          设计思路
          1. 斯克拉文:CA设定的反骑特性,近战为主,拥有部分骑兵
          2. 安特:CA设定的毒箭和游击为主特性,游牧为主
          3. 维内蒂:CA设定的农业加成和步战特性
          "knew the use of shields, always travelled on foot in contrast to the Sarmatians"
          “... (斯拉夫人)懂得使用盾牌,总是步行(作战)——这点与萨尔马提亚人不同”
          "Majority [cavalry] were Hunnic, Sclaveni or Anteans"
          “大多数(骑兵)由匈人、斯克拉文人或安特人组成”
          兵种列表(兵种名使用古斯拉夫语?)
          T1将卫 - Pyehte Dyeregi Voivodiny,步兵卫队(前期),原版att_slav_warlords_guard改
          T2将卫 - Dyeregi Tchelnyhu,骑兵卫队(中期),配斧、标枪,新建兵种FOTE_SLAV_Bodyguard_Cavalry_Middle
          T3将卫 - Dyeregi Voivodinu,骑兵卫队(后期),配矛或剑、标枪,新建兵种FOTE_SLAV_Bodyguard_Cavalry_Late
          T1投石 - Cyepatchy Portyi,带盾,配短刀、木棍,新建兵种FOTE_Slav_Slinger_Levy
          T1弓箭 - Braty Lanchiniky,征召,配短刀、木棍之类,原版att_slav_levy_archers改
          T2弓箭 - Suobini Lanchiniky,自由民,配斧,原版att_slav_archers改
          T3弓箭 - Suobini Loviniky Kvashu,历战,配剑、复合弓,原版att_slav_hunters改
          T4弓箭 - Lanchiniky Kvashu,配短刀,原版att_slav_posion_archers改
          T5弓箭 - Braty Sudlitsiniky Kvashu,配斧、复合弓,原版att_slav_posion_hunters改
          T1标枪 - Braty Sudlitsiniky,配短刀、木棍,原版att_slav_levy_skirmishers改
          T2标枪 - Suobini Sudlitsiniky,配斧,原版att_slav_skirmishers改
          T3标枪 - Natchyeli Sudlitsiniky,英雄,配剑,原版att_slav_noble_skirmishers改
          T?伏兵 - Suobini Layiniky,伏击手,埋伏范围不限,原版att_slav_ambushers改
          T1矛盾 - Braty Spisiky,征召,配标枪(木杆削尖,无枪头),原版att_slav_levy_spearmen改
          T2矛盾 - Suobini Spisiky,自由民,配标枪,原版att_slav_spearmen改
          T3矛盾 - Dengye Shcheyty,历战(前期),配标枪,原版att_slav_large_shields改
          T4矛盾 - Natchyeli Spisiky,历战(后期),配标枪,原版att_slav_noble_spearmen改
          T5矛盾 - Piyervi Spisiky,战酋护卫(Druzhina),配标枪,原版att_slav_chosen_shields改
          T1剑盾 - Suobini Mechiniky,自由民(武士),配标枪,原版att_slav_warriors改
          T2剑盾 - Tinjyukay Mechiniky,历战(前期),配标枪,原版att_slav_champions改
          T3剑盾 - Abyudmes Sveta Vita,战酋护卫,配标枪,原版att_slav_peruns_champions改
          T1斧盾 - Braty Sekyriniky,征召,配标枪,原版att_slav_axe_levy改
          T2斧盾 - Suobini Sekyriniky,自由民,配标枪,原版att_slav_axemen改
          T3斧盾 - Tinjyukay Sekyriniky,历战(前期),配标枪,原版att_slav_axe_warriors改
          T4斧盾 - Sekyriniky Pyerenya,历战(后期),配标枪,原版att_slav_peruns_axes改
          T?斧手 - Wayinikay Velesiya,仅限维内蒂,原版att_slav_followers_veles改
          T?斧手 - Piyervi Velesiya,仅限维内蒂,原版att_slav_veles_chosen改
          T1反骑 - Rezinikay Konmu,仅限斯克拉文,原版att_slav_horse_cutters改
          T2反骑 - Mesinikay Konmi,仅限斯克拉文,原版att_slav_horse_butchers改
          T1轻骑 - Suobini Cyepatchy,自由民,配矛、标枪,原版att_slav_raiders改
          T2轻骑 - Suobini Naletchetchiky,历战(前期),原版att_slav_horse_raiders改
          T3轻骑 - Cyepatchy Svarita,原版att_slav_svarogs_raiders改
          T1近骑 - (未命名),历战(中期),新建兵种FOTE_SLAV_Cavalry_Melee_T1_Middle
          T2近骑 - (未命名),历战(后期),新建兵种FOTE_SLAV_Cavalry_Melee_T2_Late
          T1辅骑 - (未命名),萨尔马提亚枪骑,新建兵种FOTE_SLAV_Cavalry_Lance_Sarmatian_T1
          T2辅骑 - (未命名),萨尔马提亚枪骑,新建兵种FOTE_SLAV_Cavalry_Lance_Sarmatian_T2
          投石,攻城器械,原版att_slav_onager改
          重投,攻城器械,原版att_slav_onager_bastion改


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            【凯尔特】
            设计思路
            1. 皮克特:优势兵种为矛兵、弩手、骑兵
            2. 喀勒多尼:优势兵种为弓箭手,沿用古典时代凯尔特兵种?(原文:"Old school celts")
            3. 艾伯塔尼/苏格特:优势兵种为狂战士、(步行)突袭手、战獒
            兵种列表(兵种名使用威尔士语)
            1. 皮克特:
            T?将卫(骑兵) - Brithwr Teuluwr Marchogwyr,带甲(全员),原版att_cel_kings_fianna改
            T3弓箭 - Brithwr Saethwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_highland_archers改
            T1弩箭 - Brithwr Croesfwawyr,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_crossbows改
            T4剑盾 - Brithwr Cleddyfwyr(后期),带甲(部分),原版att_cel_pictish_swordsmen改
            T3斧盾 - Brithwr Bwyellwyr,双手斧,无甲,原版att_cel_pictish_axemen改
            T1方阵 - Brithwr Gwaywffyn,无甲,新建兵种FOTE_celtic_pikemen_Pictish
            T2轻骑 - Brithwr Marchfilwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_mounted_spear_raiders改
            T3轻骑 - Brithwr Uchelwr Marchogwyr(前期),带甲(部分),原版att_cel_round_shield_raiders改
            T5轻骑 - Brithwr Uchelwr Marchogwyr(后期),带甲(全员),原版att_cel_chosen_raiders改
            2. 喀勒多尼:
            T?将卫(骑兵) - Brytanaidd Teuluwr Marchfilwyr(中期),带甲(全员),原版att_cel_celtic_nobles改
            T2矛盾 - Brytanaidd Pedyt Berwyr(前期),无甲,新建兵种FOTE_celt_british_spearmen_medium
            T4矛盾 - Albanwr Herwyr,潜行?疾行?,无甲,原版att_cel_cateran_brigade改
            T5矛盾 - Rhufenig-Brytanaidd Berwyr(后期),带甲(全员),新建兵种FOTE_celt_romano_british_spearmen_heavy
            T3/T4剑盾 - Albanwr Cleddyfwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_fianna改
            T5剑盾 - Albanwr Uchelwr Cleddyfwyr,带甲(部分),原版att_cel_black_blades改
            T6剑盾 - Albanwr Uchelwr Cleddyfwyr(后期),带甲(全员),原版att_cel_gallowglass改
            T7剑盾 - Rhufenig-Brytanaidd Cleddyfwyr(后期),带甲(全员),新建兵种FOTE_celt_romano_british_swordsmen_heavy
            T2近骑 - Brytanaidd Cymbrogi Marchogwyr(中期),带甲(部分),原版att_cel_mormaer_cavalry改
            T3近骑 - Rhufenig-Brytanaidd Marchogwyr(后期),带甲(全员),新建兵种FOTE_celt_romano_british_horsemen_melee
            T1战车 - Cerbydau,无甲,新建兵种FOTE_celt_chariotry_T1_followers
            T2战车 - Uchelwr Cerbydau,带甲(部分),新建兵种FOTE_celt_chariotry_T2_Elite
            3. 艾伯塔尼/苏格特/爱尔兰:
            T?将卫(狂战) - Anwarddyn am Cuchulainn,狂战士,带甲(部分?),原版att_cel_followers_of_morrigan改
            T?将卫(战车) - Teuluwr Cerbydau,带甲,新建兵种FOTE_celt_chariotry_bodyguard
            T1标枪 - Gwyddelig Picellwyr,部队规模巨大,无甲,原版att_cel_ebdani_raiders改
            T2标枪 - Gwyddelig Uchelwr Picellwyr,部队规模巨大,无甲,原版att_cel_kerns改
            T3标枪 - Gwyddelig Rhyswyr,部队规模较大,带甲(全员),原版att_cel_tanist改
            T4剑盾 - Berwyr am Dal Riada,高攻击、大盾,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_woodrunners改
            T5剑盾 - Rhyfelwyr am Dal Riada,高攻击、大盾,无甲,原版att_cel_fianna改
            T1棍手 - Gwyddelig Clopawyr,廉价,无甲,原版att_cel_caledonian_axemen改
            T2狂战 - Gwyddelig Anwarddyn,带甲(部分),原版att_cel_kings_warband改
            T1战车 - Cerbydau,无甲,新建兵种FOTE_celt_chariotry_T1_followers
            T2战车 - Uchelwr Cerbydau,带甲(部分),新建兵种FOTE_celt_chariotry_T2_Elite
            4. 凯尔特通用:
            T?将卫(剑盾) - Teuluwr Cleddyfwyr,带甲(多数),原版att_cel_celtic_warlord改
            T1投石 - Tafliedydd,无甲,新建兵种FOTE_celtic_slinger_T1_levy
            T1弓箭 - Gwerin Saethwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_bows改
            T2弓箭 - Gwyr Rhydd Saethwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_archers改
            T1标枪 - Ieuengaidd Picellwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_brigands改
            T2标枪 - Gwyr Rhydd Picellwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_skirmishers改
            T1矛盾 - Gwerin Berwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_levy改
            T2矛盾 - Gwyr Rhydd Berwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_spears改
            T3矛盾 - Uchelwr Berwyr(前期),无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_spearmen改
            T4矛盾 - Uchelwr Berwyr(后期),带甲(全员),新建兵种FOTE_celt_noble_spearmen_late
            T1剑盾 - Gwyr Rhydd Cleddyfwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_band改
            T2剑盾 - Uchelwr Cleddyfwyr(前期),无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_warband改
            T3剑盾 - Uchelwr Cleddyfwyr(后期),带甲(全员),原版att_cel_celtic_warriors改
            T1斧盾 - Gwerin Bwyellwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_axe_band改
            T2斧盾 - Gwyr Rhydd Bwyellwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_axe_warriors改
            T1狂战 - Celtaidd Anwarddyn,原版att_cel_celtic_berserkers改
            T1轻骑 - Rhydd Marchogwyr,无甲,原版att_cel_celtic_cavalry_raiders改
            T1战獒 - (未命名),原版att_cel_gazehounds改
            T2战獒 - (未命名),原版att_cel_sighthound_spears改
            T3战獒 - (未命名),原版att_cel_wolfhound_spearmen改
            投石 - Blifiau,攻城器械,无甲,原版att_cel_onager改
            堡投 - Amddiffynfa Blifiau,攻城器械,无甲,原版att_cel_onager_bastion改
            特殊 - (未命名),原版att_cel_horse_whisperers改(马语者)
            特殊 - (未命名),原版att_cel_scathas_teachers改(史卡莎导师),存疑:全员女性?在战场上担任什么角色?鼓舞还是喝敌?


            IP属地:广东6楼2023-10-09 22:42
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              关键是这MOD 定的时间段是什么历史时期
              原版不好的不是兵种,而是大地图势力分布大改.
              像FOA 把西罗拆成好意大利、高卢、西班牙、不列颠军阀势力 ,游戏趣味就上来了


              IP属地:广西7楼2023-10-10 09:27
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                老大有空可以整理一份最新的合集和整合包吗?谢谢,居然还在翻译啊,我看工坊里面今年6月份制作组更新了啊


                IP属地:湖北9楼2023-11-11 08:59
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                  猴哥6 7年没见了,之前在阿提拉群,你这个头像一看就想起来


                  IP属地:广西来自Android客户端10楼2023-11-21 05:46
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