明朝是最有骨气的王朝,当年16万清军入关,投降的明军大概仅有一百多万,这些明军虽然打清军不行,打农民军也不行,但投降清朝后战斗力爆表,从北向南,所向披靡,战无不胜,一出手就来个嘉定三屠热热身,杀自己同胞百姓的时候毫不手软,连小胡子都自愧不如![](http://static.tieba.baidu.com/tb/editor/images/client/image_emoticon22.png)
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另外一个有骨气的是南明,他们主张“联虏平寇”毕竟在南明眼里,满清只是肘腋之疾,农民军才是心腹大患![](http://static.tieba.baidu.com/tb/editor/images/client/image_emoticon13.png)
大明的忠臣包括吴三桂,孔有德,尚可喜,耿仲明,洪承畴,孙之獬,孙可望,范文程,李成栋,李永芳等等,可谓人才济济,综合实力远超拥有两百万伪军的民国![](http://static.tieba.baidu.com/tb/editor/images/client/image_emoticon13.png)
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![](http://static.tieba.baidu.com/tb/editor/images/client/image_emoticon22.png)
另外一个有骨气的是南明,他们主张“联虏平寇”毕竟在南明眼里,满清只是肘腋之疾,农民军才是心腹大患
![](http://static.tieba.baidu.com/tb/editor/images/client/image_emoticon13.png)
大明的忠臣包括吴三桂,孔有德,尚可喜,耿仲明,洪承畴,孙之獬,孙可望,范文程,李成栋,李永芳等等,可谓人才济济,综合实力远超拥有两百万伪军的民国
![](http://static.tieba.baidu.com/tb/editor/images/client/image_emoticon13.png)
![](http://static.tieba.baidu.com/tb/editor/images/client/image_emoticon13.png)
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